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Crockett
09-13-2004, 10:37 AM
Windows Messenger is a Windows XP-only product. By default, it is installed in Windows XP.
It supports video calls, application sharing, shared whiteboard, and Remote Assistance.
Windows Messenger makes use of some technologies that are built into Windows XP, such as acoustic echo cancellation, reduced latency, and high bandwidth codecs.

MSN Messenger is not the product that is installed by default on XP machines and needn't be installed on Windows XP, although you can if you prefer it over Windows Messenger. Many people installed this before XP came out with their own Windows Messenger.

* They both support instant messaging, voice calls, file transfers, and are interoperable so that users who have Windows Messenger can communicate with users who have MSN Messenger.

Windows Messenger Service is a service that transmits net send and Alerter service messages between clients and servers. This service is "not" related to Windows Messenger.In their initial state, Microsoft Windows operating systems (98, ME, XP, 2000, NT) allow anyone on the internet to pop up Windows on your screen. There is no need for them to know anything about your computer and your computer does not care who does it.

Even less savory individuals may pop up messages on your screen that try to fool you into taking actions that may not be in your best interest.

To Remove MSN Messenger:

1. Click the MSN Messenger icon in the taskbar, and then click Exit.
2. Click the Windows Start button, point to Settings, and then click Control Panel.
3. Double-click the Add/Remove Programs icon.
4. Select MSN Messenger from the list and click the Add/Remove button.

To remove Windows Messenger:

Note: If SP1 or SP2 is installed this tip is pointless. Use Add/Remove Programs to remove Messenger
Method 1
MSN Messenger does not appear in Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel.
To make it appear there, you need to edit the file named sysoc.inf.
In XP, go to Start | My Computer | C Drive | Windows | Inf and look for that file called sysoc.inf.
You can open that file by right clicking on it and choosing "open with", and pick notepad. Look for the following line:

msmsgs=msgrocm.dll,OcEntry,msmsgs.inf,hide,7

and remove the word "hide" while leaving the commas on place.
It will then look like this:

msmsgs=msgrocm.dll,OcEntry,msmsgs.inf,,7

Close and save the file, and then open the Add/Remove Programs applet in the Control Panel, so that you can remove it like any other program. :D

Method 2
Click Start | Run] and in the [Open:] box type or copy/paste the following command:

RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection%windir%\INF\msmsgs.in f,BLC.Remove

Click [OK]

Disable Windows Messenger in Windows XP

You can keep Windows Messenger, but prevent it from loading when the system starts:

First method
In Outlook Express go to TOOLS | WINDOWS MESSENGER | OPTIONS | PREFRENCES and in the general area uncheck both "Run this program when windows starts" and "Allow this program to run in the background." After doing this IM does not load on startup and Outlook Express loads as usual.

Second method
If you're running Pro, you can use the Group Policy Editor GPEDIT.MSC to prevent Messenger from loading. Otherwise, even disabling it in startup won't cause it to "always" not run. Outlook, OE and some MS web pages can still make it load.

Start | Run and enter GPEDIT.MSC

For "per machine" restriction, go to Computer Configuration, Administrative Templates, Windows Components, Windows Messenger. For "per user" restriction, go to User Configuration, Administrative Templates, Windows Components, Windows Messenger.

You can now modify whether it starts initially and/or whether its to run at all.

Third Method
This is my favorite method for fooling Windows XP into not being able to launch Messenger. The default location for Windows Messenger is C:\Program Files\Messenger. When XP wants to fire up Messenger it will try and access the files at the default location. To prevent Messenger from loading, just rename the Messenger folder to something new; MessengerDisabled has worked for me. If you want to use Messenger at some point down the road, simply rename the folder to Messenger and you're back in business.

To Disable Windows Messenger Service:

http://www.dvdsqueeze.com/windowsmessage.htm

To Delete Windows Messenger Service:

http://grc.com/stm/ShootTheMessenger.htm

PinkAngel_701
12-11-2004, 03:00 PM
Crockett:
I did the 3rd method a few weeks ago.. But I do use Steve Gibson's tools also... it's been fine, no problems with the renaming either. Good post you got here for sharing too Crockett :D

Sherri

Crockett
12-11-2004, 09:18 PM
Crockett:
I did the 3rd method a few weeks ago.. But I do use Steve Gibson's tools also... it's been fine, no problems with the renaming either. Good post you got here for sharing too Crockett :D

Sherri
Wow!...I got a reply :)
You're welcome, Sherri. :)

snowforskate
12-22-2004, 08:58 PM
Thank you Crockett That info is just what I needed. :D

MrBill
12-22-2004, 10:57 PM
Crockett, Windows Messenger is on Windows 98 also. I believe it is version 4.7. I used it to talk to my brother thru the internet almost every night for a couple of years. It works similar to Net Meeting. I don't have a 98 machine set up and running right now. Will have in a couple of days. Have 6 more to do for the PC club that I am in. Will check it then. Maybe somebody with 98 can verify this before I get one up and running.
If it starts on boot up, you can disable it thru the program itself. If it starts when OE is opened up, you can disable it from starting when OE is opened.
Tools/Options General tab and you will see it about the 4th thing down. It says "Automatically log on to Windows Messenger".

Gruss
12-23-2004, 05:07 AM
Crockett, Windows Messenger is on Windows 98 also. I believe it is version 4.7. I used it to talk to my brother thru the internet almost every night for a couple of years. It works similar to Net Meeting. I don't have a 98 machine set up and running right now. Will have in a couple of days. Have 6 more to do for the PC club that I am in. Will check it then. Maybe somebody with 98 can verify this before I get one up and running.
If it starts on boot up, you can disable it thru the program itself. If it starts when OE is opened up, you can disable it from starting when OE is opened.
Tools/Options General tab and you will see it about the 4th thing down. It says "Automatically log on to Windows Messenger".

Methinks you're talking about MSN Messenger. I've 4 machines running Win98se., None have or ever had Windows Messenger, but all have MSN Messenger, as I used it for years, with AIM, & ICQ. Now I use Trillian.074, as it allows me 5 connections. George. :)

Crockett
12-23-2004, 08:29 AM
Crockett, Windows Messenger is on Windows 98 also. I believe it is version 4.7. I used it to talk to my brother thru the internet almost every night for a couple of years.
Me also thinks you're talking about MSN Messenger. Messenger doesn't come with Windows 98. ..and MSN Messenger doesn't come with it either. It needs to be downloaded.

Gruss
12-23-2004, 12:49 PM
Crockett: You're right, my friend. I put it in all the pcs' myself.
Have a Great Christmas, & a Fabulous New Year!
George. :)