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Why in the world recommend a program which you state yourself that PC Mag gave a very weak rating?
For others who pay attention to the ratings, take a look at this thread
http://forum.worldstart.com/showthread.php?t=140797 concerning iObit.

2 different programs Judy...........!

http://www.iolo.com/ss/3/
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2 different programs Judy...........!

http://www.iolo.com/ss/3/
I know, that was just pointed out to me
I edited my post, though now I see it is too late...you caught me Harley
That proves what my favorite English teacher always taught us, be sure to "carefully read what you have written because very often you will read what is a mistake as correct because you often times read what you THINK you see not what is ACTUALLY written."
My sincere apologies to all.
And all this on a six month old thread to boot!!!!
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Don't worry about it..............I usually read posts too fast when I'm busy too.

Just use my excuse..............it's too early in the morning!

But Acer is right.........that poster should really keep his mis-informed computer advice to himself,especially in this thread.
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Poor advice given here. Obviously you should catch up on some AV program testimonials , especially if you're going to advise folks with bad info. Avast & Avira are both very popular & excellent programs, & are about the best free ones available. Personally I believe folks should ignore your advice.
Ignore if you wish. Many people are out to get something for nothing. But it is not bad info. I mentioned the iolo system because it would probably be better than the free junk you mentioned.
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Ignore if you wish. Many people are out to get something for nothing. But it is not bad info. I mentioned the iolo system because it would probably be better than the free junk you mentioned.
LOOK I don't who the hell you are but with 8 posts,nobody is going to take your advice,especially when you show up and post this crap in my thread about trojans.

Do everyone a favor and stop embarassing yourself and just delete your posts.
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billtjr50, I suggest you take some time and read the posts of the others here. The advice you give is questionable at best. You will find loads of excellent advice by a great many of the regular contributors. This thread was started by on of the more knowledgeable members and is absolutely correct.
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Is there anyway of having the thread locked? The information Harley has provided and some question and answers which follow cover more than the basics. Any other questions or comments would be better served by starting a new thread. The thread was started as a tutorial and not a spiting contest of which AV or FW offers the best defense.
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Hello I hope someone can help me. I am running Windows XP. I have run AVG scan twice with no infections, spybot, Malwarebytes, ad aware were all clear. There is very little on the internet. Any help would be appreciated...thanks!

Trojan horse PSW.Generic8.RDX and this is new today Trojan horse Generic19.KBG
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Hi Harley,
I have been using AVG Free Edition on my pc for a few years, never had a problem with viruses, but reading your post, now I'm a little bit concerned if is the best I can get for free... should I get Avast Free Edition instead?
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1st what are trojans?





Trojan infections are at the highest now because they're the most popular method used to take over a user's computer,and are responsible for over 75% of compromised machines.

2ndly ..how to protect yourself?

The most obvious place to start is having a router and/or a software firewall that will block outgoing traffic.

Online Armor with it's Program Guard is a very good firewall,my personal choice.
http://www.tallemu.com/

and another is ,Comodo ,probably the 2 best right now.

http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.c..._firewall.html

After installing one of these,check to see how secure you are:

https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

Now to the security programs that will protect you :

First and foremost is to use a safer browser than Internet Explorer that has some scripting defenses in place.

Firefox with the Noscript extension is the best place to start.

Along with Opera ,they both have excellent options to stop or warn you of backdoor or dangerous downloads.

With FF ,you still have to be aware of extensions from malware sites and only install from recognized sites like:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:1

Once you get your browser configured properly ,there are a few other applications that will help greatly:

Antivir and Avast are arguably the 2 best free anti-virus,with extra protection.

http://www.free-av.com/
http://www.avira.com/en/support/kbdetails.php?id=95.......Manual updates.

http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html

Threatfire [a new program] is a very good program to run in conjunction with your present anti-virus and adds more protection than just having a normal free one running.




http://www.threatfire.com/g.

Edit:there is also a compatibility problem with Avg [what a surprise]


SuperAntiSpyware will scan for and cleanup most malware.

http://www.superantispyware.com/


Malwarebytes Anti-malware
http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php

All of these run quite well together with no conflicts and should secure your machine,Threatfire may slow some setups,so it's probably best to install this last to see if it does.

But the smartest and most secure way to keep clean is to learn what runs and starts on your computer and to be smart about what you download,what email attachments you open and what sites you visit.

Some programs to check and stop the processes if you know the name,also.

Autorun

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Some test sites:

http://www.windowsecurity.com/trojanscan/

http://www.pcflank.com/art17d.htm

http://www.auditmypc.com/freescan/re...t_scan_fyi.asp

http://security.arnit.net/tplarnit.php?page=tscan

And a trojan simulator......test your defenses.
http://www.misec.net/trojansimulator/


Other sites with info on the malware ''Antivirus 2008'' and it's variants and removal instructions.

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http://www.2-spyware.com/remove-antivirus2008.html
http://www.xp-vista.com/
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Avast has gotten so much better ,since the new version 5 came out............and it has more protection than the others.
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Thanks sooo much Harley for your prompt response, even thou I already have downloaded the programs you've mentioned on the post ... I'm now closing everything so I can get them installed in my pc... thank youuuu!... you have helped me in the past with my pc questions & problems, but I'm a little more savvy since I discovered WorldStart, which I recommend to everybody I know.
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Exclamation Doesn't look like much has changed since I started this thread a few years ago.

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Trojans continued to account for most of the new threats created this quarter, by far. Trojans constituted 72.58 percent of all new malware, while viruses constituted 14.47 percent and worms 10.53 percent.

When it comes to the number of infections caused by each malware category, the ranking supports the hierarchy of new samples in circulation, with Trojans accounting for three out of every four infections, followed by worms and viruses.

"It is obvious that malware writers have standardized their infection techniques, since what we have seen in Q3 is a continuation of the trends we saw over the first half of the year," said Luis Corrons, technical director of PandaLabs. "Trojans once again have accounted for almost 80 percent of infections, and continue to be the preferred category for cyber-criminals to carry out information theft. All this confirms cyber-crooks' first objective: to make money from their creations."
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Doesn't look like much has changed since I started this thread a few years ago.
Only change is that the ones today are so much worse, can do so much horrible damage to the computer AND to the owners life personally. I was literally reduced to tears because of the personal and financial problems caused to the owner of the computer I had to clean up last week.
These today are quite often much harder to remove, if its even possible to remove (the one last week finally required a full drive wipe and reinstall), than 3 years ago when you started this thread.
Makes me almost physically sick!
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Only change is that the ones today are so much worse, can do so much horrible damage to the computer AND to the owners life personally. !
That's why it's imperative that users get used to what processes run on a daily basis from the taskmanager.

Takes only a few minutes to go through them and see what is there everyday...........that way if some process doesn't belong you can use tools like Process Explorer or others to kill them.

I've noticed that most trojans always have a combo of letters and numbers,which makes it easier to spot them.

Also checking what startups you have is another help.
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That's why it's imperative that users get used to what processes run on a daily basis from the taskmanager.

Takes only a few minutes to go through them and see what is there everyday...........that way if some process doesn't belong you can use tools like Process Explorer or others to kill them.

I've noticed that most trojans always have a combo of letters and numbers,which makes it easier to spot them.

Also checking what startups you have is another help.
Absolutely! This was on a computer of an 89 yr old. It is one that I help maintain if there are problems. He had not had problems so I had not seen the computer in awhile. Three weeks ago he thought he had problems with his Word program so I went to check things out. Computer actually "appeared" at that time to be working ok for an 8 yr old computer. Task manager showed nothing out of the ordinary at all, same startups listed that I had personally put in there in late August. I made sure his security programs were updated, which they weren't. He's on dial-up, only thing he can afford, so I know he sometimes doesn't wait for updates to finish, which I thought likely to be the problem then, but I updated his programs and all showed they did update, ran full scans with all of them, all showed clean.

10 days ago another call, computer was locked, he couldn't get anything but a white screen when he went online so I went over...F.B.I.Ransompak! and yes he HAD paid "somebody" money...$200!!! using a MoneyPack card number to unlock the computer, obviously it wouldn't unlock it.
I brought the computer home to try to get it clean. As long as there was no internet cord attached and no browser was opened the computer worked..."semi-well".
Checking the security programs I was astonished to see all had dates of last update as Sept. 28th! I personally had done the updates and scans around Nov. 10th. And the security logs showed that, but obviously the programs had been "fried". Also the taskmanager could no longer be accessed, Add/Remove programs didn't work, Start, run, no longer worked so couldn't access msconfig. All just sat there...did nothing. CD drive did not even show in My Computer. I could manually remove all temp files except one, it would not remove and since it wouldn't boot to safe mode either, even using the "F" key to do so, it would go to the boot choice but if you chose anything but normal it would not boot, that wasn't a possible way to remove it either.
I manually loaded several programs via flash drive and they "appeared" to run, but really didn't. Chkdsk was tried...ran all of 3 minutes.
I accessed boot options and could boot to CD but could not reformat using Windows Disk, it also just sat there.
Used DBAN to totally wipe the drive and then did the reinstall. It went without incident and the system is back up, running like a top, fully updated and now set up so secure, with him as a limited user only. He always has been "click happy", but never this bad Hopefully this will help keep it clean.
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That's the type of customer I usually install Erunt or Regbackup,which can work most of the time.

What you saw on that machine sounds more like rootkit than a trojan.......probably a Kernel level malware which is almost impossible to detect.

Gmer and a couple of other apps do a good job though................imaging is probably the easiest solution also.
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That's the type of customer I usually install Erunt or Regbackup,which can work most of the time.

What you saw on that machine sounds more like rootkit than a trojan.......probably a Kernel level malware which is almost impossible to detect.

Gmer and a couple of other apps do a good job though................imaging is probably the easiest solution also.
Oh there may have been a rootkit, though GMER showed none, but it most definitely was theFBI MoneyPak Ransomware/Reveton Trojan delivered by the Citadel malware platform. F.B.I. Warning screen was there along with the box where you type the MoneyPack Code to send the payment as shown in my attachment. I saw it with my own eyes.

If there was a lot on this computer then imaging would of course be the way to go, but he's my Uncle, its my old computer and had nothing on it except the up to date XP, and MS Word. He's a writer, other than that, the browser and security programs, there is nothing on it. He doesn't keep his writings on there, saves those to floppies. All were scanned before moving them all to new, clean disks and giving them back to him.
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